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- INFO-HAMS Digest Fri, 27 Oct 89 Volume 89 : Issue 811
-
- Today's Topics:
- Aviation NAVAIDS (long, lonter now)
- Building A (Very) Low Cost Repeater
- Cellular Tel Info Needed
- DIRECTION FINDING EQUIPMENT (SuperDF)
- Ham gear in hospitals
- ICOM handheld batteries question
- PL259 connector assembly
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-
- Date: 26 Oct 89 23:13:44 GMT
- From: claris!sts!cohesive!ballard@apple.com (John Ballard)
- Subject: Aviation NAVAIDS (long, lonter now)
-
- >In article <8910260703.AA00903@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> MEHARP01@ULKYVM.BITNET (Michael Harpe) writes:
- >Actually, the VOR transmiitter has a rotating beacon that rotates through
- >360 degrees and somehow encodes the bearing into the signal. The receiver
- >in the aircraft decodes this and indicates through the OBS (Omni-bearing
- >selector) indicator how far left or right of the selected radial you are.
-
- The VOR transmitter sends two pieces of information on a single carrier.
- A reference signal of I believe 30Hz is amplitude modulated on the carrier,
- and another AM signal in the 9000 Hz range is frequency modulated at
- the same 30Hz. The phase angle of the 30Hz "FM" signal is varied as the
- antenna array is electronically rotated. Thus the azimuth from the VOR
- can be determined by comparing the phase angle of the two 30 Hz signals.
- (This is from memory so the actual numbers may not be 30Hz and 9000Hz.)
- >
- >Actually, the ILS uses the same radios and indicators as a VOR, just that
- >the ILS provides both glideslope and azimuth indications. It is in the
- >same band as the ILS (the lower part of the nav frequencies are for
- >landing aids, the upper part for VORS).
- >
- Actually the ILS consists of many components, the Localizer which provides
- an artificial runway centerline and a Glideslope which provides an
- artificial glideslope angle (similar to the VASI's for VFR). The marker
- beacons indicate position along the ILS and the various light systems
- provide for the transition to visual flight before touchdown. The
- localizer component uses the same radio as the VOR but the method of
- encoding the information is different. In fact the localizer and
- glideslope transmitters use the same method of encoding the information.
- The glideslope transmitter operates in the 300Mhz range, the VOR and
- localizer operate in the 108 - 118Mhz range. The channel selected on
- the VOR/localizer receiver determines the frequency used by the
- glideslope receiver. (i.e. they are paired.) The marker beacon transmitters
- are at 75Mhz single frequency but the Inner Marker, Middle Marker and
- Outer Marker signals are tone modulated differently and therefore will
- light different lights on the display.
-
- >
- >Not all VORs have DME capability. The DME in the aircraft sends a signal
- >to the DME at the VOR, and then it replies back. By timing these signals
- >the DME in the aircraft can give a distance reading, compute groundspeed,
- >and give an estimated time of arrival. You are right, it is great for an
- >approach.
- >
-
- A DME is usually associated with TACAN (Tactical Air Navigation). This is
- the military version of NAVAIDS. The VOR is then called a VORTAC. If the
- DME is simply colocated with a VOR then it is called a VOR-DME, these are
- indicated by different symbols on the charts. The DME works very much
- like a transponder but with the roles of interogator and transponder
- reversed. These systems are single frequency(no channel selection to
- make) UHF pulse systems. In the case of a transponder, a device which
- allows the ground based radar systems to get a strong reply from an
- aircraft, the pulse train which is returned to the interrogator has
- information encoded in it. If the interrogator sends a Mode A
- interrogation the transponder replies with its SQUAWK a four octal
- digit number which is dialed into the front of the unit. If the
- interrogator send a Mode C interrogation then the transponder replies
- with its altitude as determined by an encoding altimeter. This information
- is usually presented to the controller in the data block which tracks
- an aircraft on the radar display. The SQUAWK codes are usually assigned
- by ATC and have specific meanings.
-
-
- John KI6PS "I'd rather be flying"
-
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-
- Date: 26 Oct 89 20:48:14 GMT
- From: rochester!rit!cci632!cb@pt.cs.cmu.edu (Just another hired gun (n2hkd))
- Subject: Building A (Very) Low Cost Repeater
-
- Combining the ideas of the previous posters, a temporary
- repeater (mobile if need be) coulb be nmake using the cross
- band repeater features of today's fancy equipment.
- I (and a few others) have made the cross band mod to my Kenwood 721.
- It would be very easy to park two mobiles on a hill top about a
- few hundred feet apart and make a complete repeater system.
- Utilized in this manner it(they) would be able to handle inputs
- from both bands and output to both bands. This seems like a great
- thing to do in an emergency when the AC power dies.
- Also it would allow a whole county coverage with mulitple cross
- band repeaters with the users on one band and the interlink on the
- other.
- Just a few ramblings (IMHO)...
-
- --
- I volunteered for the rights in America, and now I'm losing them, AAARGHH
- email: cb@cci632 or !rochester!kodak!n2hkd!curtis Fight for your RIGHTS!
- Curtis Braun, N2HKD, Computronics, PO Box 1002 Fairport NY, 14450
-
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- Date: 26 Oct 89 21:49:21 GMT
- From: att!cbnewsl!hawk@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (james.p.hawkins)
- Subject: Cellular Tel Info Needed
-
- In article <89292.202221REDELMAN@AUVM.BITNET>, REDELMAN@AUVM.BITNET (Richard B. Edelman) writes:
- > Can anyone recommend a good >>technical<< book on how cellular telephone
- > works?
- >
- > Thanks,
- > Dick KH6RE
- >
- > REDELMAN@AUVM.BITNET
-
- There is a book entitled "Introducing Cellular Communications - the new
- mobile telephone system" by Stan Prentiss TAB Books
-
- ISBN 0-8306-0682-3 (hrdcover)
- ISBN 0-8306-1682-9 (paperback)
-
- Don't be fooled by the word "Introducing". It's loaded with information!
-
- Jim (WA2WHV)
-
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- Date: 27 Oct 89 02:58:00 GMT
- From: csusac!mmsac!jim@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Jim Lips Earl)
- Subject: DIRECTION FINDING EQUIPMENT (SuperDF)
-
- Just how much does this SuperDF thingamabob cost? I love going on T-Hunts.
- My only experience is a few T-Hunts with a four-element UHF beam. A few
- buddies and I used to do this.
- One of us would go "hide", and then the others would see
- who could find the "hidee" first. The "hidee" would continuously transmit,
- only unkeying for a few seconds to see if there were any messages for him.
- I've found that a smaller yagi works better than a large (5 elements or more)
- one, because the larger ones have more "peaks" on the S-Meter. I don't recall
- what they are called. The opposite of nulls, I guess. Anyway, a three or
- four element beam worked great, along with a switchable attenuator, of course.
- (to reduce signal strength when you get close.)
-
- I've seen those doppler units in Mobile Radio Tech., but I've yet to see a
- price. How much are we talking about here? The cheapest one I'd seen was
- a kit from Dick Smith. I don't even know if they make them anymore.
-
- --Jim Earl (KB6KCP)
-
- --
- Jim "Lips" Earl UUCP: sun!sacto!mmsac!jim
- KB6KCP INTERNET: mmsac!jim@sacto.West.Sun.COM
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- The opinions stated herein are all mine.
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- Date: 27 Oct 89 00:46:33 GMT
- From: fernwood!c3!tenney@decwrl.dec.com (Glenn Tenney)
- Subject: Ham gear in hospitals
-
- In article <4324@deimos.cis.ksu.edu> mac@harris.cis.ksu.edu (Myron A. Calhoun) writes:
- >I've read a posting on some usegroup within the last few days saying
- >that at least one hospital did NOT allow the use of ham radio gear
- >from inside the hospital by either patients or visitors. However,
- >QST once carried an article about hams using radios around Christmas
- >time to let sick children talk to Santa Claus. Guess you'll have
- >to ask your local hospital.
-
- While I was in the hospital a couple of years ago I brought my HT with me.
- While I was on IV I found that hi power (5 wts) caused my IV unit to
- go into alarm mode and stop delivering. Low power worked ok, as did more distance.
- This was with an electronic IV delivery system; 2m ht; and about a half wave of
- cable from sensor to IV unit.
- Glenn AA6ER
-
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- Date: 26 Oct 89 16:52:48 GMT
- From: fluke!ssc-vax!clark@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Roger Clark Swann)
- Subject: ICOM handheld batteries question
-
- My brother just bought one of the newer ICOM handheld units with the
- battery pack that slips on the bottom of the radio, (sorry, don't
- remember the Model No.). ICOM sells about six different battery packs
- for various combinations of power output and operating time.
- The standard pack that comes with the radio has an output voltage of
- 13.8 V and is specd to generate 7 Watts ouput from the transmitter.
- My question is; what type battery technology are they using in these
- packs? This standard pack doesn't seem large enough to accommodate a
- sufficient number of NI-CAD type cells to yield 13.8 Volts, (unless
- they are very small ones). How about rechargeable Lithium cells? This
- type of battery has a much higher power density than NI-CAD. Anyone
- know the details?
-
-
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- Roger Swann | uucp: uw-beaver!ssc-vax!clark
- @ |
- The Boeing Company | WB7VQX
-
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-
- Date: 27 Oct 89 03:08:23 GMT
- From: csusac!mmsac!jim@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Jim Lips Earl)
- Subject: PL259 connector assembly
-
- I've only got one additional comment to make about soldering on PL259
- connectors; do NOT buy crummy Radio Shack connectors and expect to solder
- them on. Sure, you may say, "I use nothing but Radio Shack connectors, and
- I've never had a problem." Well, I've been involved in the assembly,
- installation, and operation of three or four different ham repeaters, and
- several commercial repeaters. After time, RS connectors have been known
- to develop "diode junctions" and be the source of much intermod. They'll
- cause you nothing but headaches over the long run. They may be fine for
- your mobile rig, but if you are going to use one at a repeater installation,
- you are asking for trouble. The answer? Spend a little more and buy a
- silver-plated teflon type connector. The solder flows right onto the
- case, and you don't need to "scrape" anything. Also, I highly recommend
- the use of double-shielded cable (such as RG-214). Again, it costs more,
- but it is easily worth the extra cost.
-
- --
- Jim "Lips" Earl UUCP: sun!sacto!mmsac!jim
- KB6KCP INTERNET: mmsac!jim@sacto.West.Sun.COM
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- The opinions stated herein are all mine.
-
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